brainygamer
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Hey everybody. After discussing it with David and Dan, I've opened a new forum for a Zelda: Ocarina of Time playthrough. More info on this project can be found on my blog:
I hope you'll join us for the conversation!
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link6616
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Oh that's awesome and well timed.
A collective playthrough will probably encourage me to go do all the side stuff for once this time instead of rushing through it.
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Patchworkearth
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Hello, all--
I'd mentioned this offhand to Michael on Twitter... I think a great next choice for the VGC would be Persona 3, as there is certainly a lot to talk about. My only concern would be that each iteration of the game is different enough to impact discussion. He suggested that might also be interesting to talk about, though I'd worry it would be confusing. So I'm making a "formal" proposal here.
I hope you consider the possibilities of using this game as your next title.
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thisyearsmodel
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I'm new here but I would be interested in doing Persona 3 as well after Zelda...if only because it will finally give me an excuse to play it!
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link6616
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I'd be up going through Persona 3 again.
Although I think to reduce variance, too much, we should limit people to just 'The Journey' portion of FES or the Male route of Portable. As the male route in portable is identical.
There are a few other differences on top of that, mechanically, but plotwise identical.
If we wanted to do this I'd be happy to champion this.
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Patchworkearth
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The male route of Portable is VERY different to the Journey in FES.
There are a number of different features and aspects, including the addition of daytime jobs, the location of the accessory shop, which days of the calendar certain characters are available, the Persona 4 cameo at the beach, the ability to track down missing people (which can stall social links), the addition of a save point at your school desk, and the ability to direct control your teammates.
These are NOT insignificant elements when discussing how the game does what it does, and our reactions to the same.
While the larger plot elements are the same in all three versions of the male "Journey," to ignore these differences would derail the discussion before it's begun.
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link6616
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True actually. Although i think the change in how knock downs work is also a huge mechanical difference I'd forgotten about too.
I didn't realise so much had changed though, shows how much I remembered from my FES playthrough though.
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thisyearsmodel
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I'm speaking from a place of ignorance since I've only played a few hours on a borrowed copy of FES, but to me it seems like allowing a playthrough of any of the game's many versions and discussing any differences/convergences between them could make for a really interesting conversation. In a huge game like Persona, you're already going to be dealing with a lot of different player experiences, so why not just open it up all the way?
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link6616
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That's a good point. Although I think part of the issue is portables vast streamlined nature compared to 3 or fes, you can fully set up your team and so on. And in terms of disscussion I think the console versions are more appropriate, because of their uniqueness.
Having said that, p3 is still excellent and unique in all 3 incarnations.
Anyway, still more happy to champion such a thing
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davidcarlton
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Sounds like a good idea to me!
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brainygamer
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The suggestion of a Persona 3 playthrough has come up before, but didn't get quite enough traction to merit a playthrough. I agree with David that now seems like a good time to go ahead, and it looks like we have enough interested members to make it fly.
I suggest we wait until after the OoT playthrough concludes, or at least until it's clear that we're nearing the end. If enough people want to forge ahead with P3 now, I have no objections, but I'm guessing a few people currently playing OoT would prefer to hold off a bit. I doubt that I'll be able to join in this time, but maybe I'll jump in here and there. I'm a big fan of the Persona series.
It certainly has been fun to be part of the OoT discussion, and it's good to see the VGC whirring along with such a stimulating conversation.
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thisyearsmodel
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Yeah, I would probably prefer to clear my plate of Ocarina of Time before moving on to Persona; I'm not that far from the end though, and I've actually been holding back a little so I can be closer in pace to the bulk of the group, so I can probably blast through it if need be.
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How far along is the OoT discussion?
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thisyearsmodel
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It's tough to estimate precisely but it seems like we're about halfway through at best; a few have finished, a few are just getting started, but the bulk are somewhere between the second dungeon (of eight) and the fourth.
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link6616
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I think it would be best to wait for the OoT playthrough to wrap up. P3 is extremely time heavy in my mind, so managing it and other games could be quite difficult. Unless of course people wanted to just play 1 game day a day for a little less than a year... Which could be very interesting...
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BloodPudding
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I want to play through Super Metroid.
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thisyearsmodel
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I'm still pretty married to Persona 3 for the next playthrough, for almost entirely selfish reasons (I've played through Super Metroid, but not P3  ). That said, I would be far from unopposed to playing Super Metroid at some point in the future. Maybe even Metroid Prime which I also haven't played!
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so I'm thinking of getting Persona 3, I'm assuming FES is the same as the original except for a few changes? Is there any reason to not get FES?
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Patchworkearth
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Well, presumably discussion will cover this over time, but I'd personally argue that each iteration of the game has been a bit less thematically "pure" than the previous - with regards to the messages that it's trying to get across... in some ways, it's an RPG that works almost like an art game, in the way that the game mechanics are thematically designed. That said, each iteration of the game is also:
A) Easier, and
B) contains more content overall,
than the versions that came before them. In that way, FES is arguably the best choice. There are a LOT of things to like about P3P, but in some ways I felt the game was dumbed down or made more traditional. FES also contains the "bonus game," The Answer, which is a separate, 30-hour straight RPG which provides an epilogue to the game.
I own both FES and P3P, myself, and I like them both for different reasons. The story itself won't be very different, but the minor adjustments can significantly affect gameplay in different ways.
As far as FES vs. the original is concerned, most of the additional content (minus the bonus epilogue game) is very superficial, and thus can be considered a "Why not? Throw it in" when choosing which to purchase. That said, a few things were rebalanced, and a few of the cosmetic changes kind of distract from the thematic choices.
FES is easier to acquire and cheaper than the original, for the most part - in my experience, can't say what Amazon Marketplace or eBay is offering for it today in particular. There's not really a reason not to get FES rather than the original, so long as we keep in mind a few things were added in late as bonuses.
Does that all make sense?
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davidcarlton
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Re Persona 3: Could we move the planning discussion for that over to the thread dedicated for that purpose?
Re Super Metroid: it's a big hole in my gaming background, so I'd probably be interested in giving that one a try.
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link6616
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Oh, I haven't played super metroid since I was 15!
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First, I would definitely play Super Metroid. It's been mentioned a lot and I think it'd be good to finally do. Maybe this time I'll try to do it without save states.
Second, I wonder if anyone else has heard about the free games coming to current 3DS owners to make up for Nintendo cutting the price in August. The games are NES and GBA and probably qualify as vintage games. I know I'm excited to patch a few holes in my gaming history, most specifically the original Legend of Zelda. They're not coming out until September 1st, so I'll maybe check back then to see if anyone has any interest in any of the titles. Obviously this wouldn't be limited to 3DS owners, it was just a way to get some ideas. I know I'll do LOZ in the What Vintage Game Are You Playing Now if I don't get enough people interested in a real playthrough.
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thisyearsmodel
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I was secretly hoping for a horror game around October/Halloween, but I'd be happy with Super Metroid too.
As for Legend of Zelda, obviously I can't speak for anyone else but I'd be down with taking it on...I'll be in the middle of Persona 3, but I'm a multitasker in general and I think the first Zelda is short enough that I won't be spreading myself too thin.
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link6616
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It'd be great to do a quite short game for once I must admit...
Although given the recent (a few hours ago?) release of Final Fantasy Tactics on iOS gizmos it might be something worth considering.
But, I think when the 3DS free games list comes out it would be great to look through that for classics to play through, given the influx of people with them fresh and many people might have already had.
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thisyearsmodel
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@link6616: Plus the great thing is that they're NES games, so even folks without 3DS...es shouldn't have any trouble finding a version to play.
Final Fantasy Tactics is super tempting but if I had to play it concurrently with Persona I'd be overextending myself for sure...
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